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whether he be of great or small learning;
but let the love of pure truth draw thee to read.
Publishing the Discussion of different writers
on the
The
Place of Safety
Some Promote a Physical Place (Physical)
And some Reject a Physical Location in favor of a Spiritual Protection (Spiritual)
"Place of Safety" Is not in the Bible
"Petra" Is not in the Bible
"Place of Final Training" Is not in the Bible
Petra
Bob Thiel Say: Place of safety
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HWA
Denying he ever said Petra was the place of Safety.
HWA arranging with King Hussain on Petra for Place of Safety
Hwa on Petra as the Place of safety (Yes He did say it was)
Place of Safety for Philidelphians, Robert J. Thiel
Spiritual Protection
1. God is our Hiding Place (Richard Nickels)
2. The Place of Safety Really?
3. Petra and Some Background by:
by Ron Graff
and Lambert Dolphin an excerpt from their book.
4. David Foster, Comments
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Some summaries:
Dankenbring says, "God is the One we must look to. For no matter where the chosen place of safety is, or when we flee, unless God takes us there, it will either be the wrong place, or else we will go there either too early, or too late!" Amen!
Hoeh says that the Place of Safety "is only [for] those who are having a part in the work of God who have their minds on the Kingdom of God, not some physical place of protection who will escape. That escape cannot be planned for in advance. It is a supernatural escape!" Hoeh continues, "It is not those who heap up provisions that shall escape! It is those who obey God, who do His work, and who trust Him to provide the necessities and the divine protection when that time arrives!"
David Jon Hill says, " . . . GOD HIMSELF will have to be our Protection, our Safety, our Buckler, our Shield, our Tower, our Defense or Petra will become, as it has for many thousands of others, OUR TOMB, instead of our Place of Safety!" Daily miracles will be necessary to keep us alive. "There is NO WAY we can save ourselves from the prophesied famines to come upon this land. No matter how much whole wheat . . . [etc.] we have stowed away in a cave we're not going to live through that time of famine except by Gods express will and desire and by His direct intervention!" See Matthew 16:25.
L. Leroy Neff in his article "You May Not Escape the Tribulation!" gives balanced, uplifting principles we can learn from Petra and the Place of Safety:
Steven Collins says "The Bible does say that the place sela (Petra) will be a place from which people are taken captive in the latter days and not a place where they are given refuge from captivity . . . . Numbers 24 indicates Petra will be a very dangerous place in the latter days . . . . those who put their trust in Petra may blunder into the very captivity they are seeking to avoid by 'fleeing to Petra'." Instead of going to Petra, we should "stay away from Petra."
Roy Marrs says the woman of Revelation 12 is Israel, not the Church. Compare Revelation 12:7-10, 13 with Luke 10:18, John 12:31. "NOW shall the prince of this world be cast out" shows that Satans wrath was focused on Israel. Israel fled to the wilderness. Christ told Israel, the inhabitants of Judaea to flee to mountains, Matthew 24:16-22. Revelation 12:17 shows that the remnant of Israel is the Church. Revelation 13:7 says Satan shall war against the saints and overcome them, they dont escape.
Steven Ross says Christians are to be busy in Christs service when He returns, Matthew 24:46, "Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing." He says it is hard to fulfil this hiding in a cave in Petra
Hoeh, Herman L. "We Saw Petra!," January 1958.
Neff, L. Leroy, "You May NOT ESCAPE the Tribulation!," January 1962.
Hoeh, Herman L., "This is PETRA!," April 1962, June 1962, July 1962.
Hill, David Jon, "PETRA!," October 1963.
Smith, Norman, "We FLED Petra!," November 1966.
Other Articles:
The Saints on the Sea of glass: By Kenneth V. Ryland
Petra and the Place of Safety Petra and the Place of Safety. Study No. 127. ... Some imply that being taken to the "lace of Safety," is almost equivalent to entering the Kingdom of God. .
Where is Your "Place of Safety"? GTA