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Publishing the Discussion of different writers on the

The Place of Safety
Some Promote a Physical Place (Physical) 
And some Reject a Physical Location in favor of a Spiritual Protection
(Spiritual)


"Place of Safety"  Is not in the Bible
"Petra"  Is not in the Bible
"Place of Final Training" Is not in the Bible

Physical Protection

Petra

  Petra
Pronounced As: ptr , ancient rock city, in present-day Jordan, known to the Arabs as Wadi Musa for the stream that flows through it. It was early occupied by the Edomites (descendants of Esau) and by the Nabataeans (an Arab tribe), who had their capital there from the 4th cent. B.C. until the Roman occupation in A.D. 106. It was for many centuries the focal point of a vast caravan trade but declined with the rise of Palmyra; however, it remained a religious center of Arabia. Under the Romans in the 2d and 3d cent. it was included in the province of Arabia Petraea. An early seat of Christianity, it was conquered by the Muslims in the 7th cent. and in the 12th cent. was captured by the Crusaders, who built a citadel there. Petra was unknown to the Western world until its ruins were visited by Johann Burckhardt in 1812. A narrow, winding pass between towering walls leads to the open plain upon which stood the ancient city. The plain is surrounded by hills in which tombs have been carved in the pink rock. The city is referred to as Sela in the Bible (2 Kings 14.7).

Weather

Aqaba - Alcazar Hotel
Hotel near the beach offers a laundry service and diving and sightseeing trips. Examine the rates and make a reservation.
List of Aqaba's hotels
List of hotels offers descriptions of accommodations with televisions and mini-bars and air conditioning. Link to other Aqaba sites.
Petra - Edom Hotel
Hotel features air-conditioned rooms, satellite television and room service. View photos of the facilities and read about sightseeing tours.
Petra - Kings' Way Inn
Petra hotel has individual rooms and suites. Research its discounted rates and find historical facts about the city.
Petra - Movenpick Hotel
Resort has meeting and banquet rooms, gym facilities and a swimming pool. Take a tour of the suites and facilities and survey the restaurants.
Petra - Petra Forum Hotel

Other places to stay in Petra

Petra the Drama of History
Map of Petra

 Bob Thiel Say:  Place of safety

Discovering Petra
Maxine Rose Schur visits Jordan's ancient city after dark and discovers a side most tourists don't see. From the archives of Salon's Wanderlust.
Petra - The Drama of History
Takes users through a tour of the famous city. Includes photos, movies and descriptions of the attractions.
Petra Background
Read about the history and geography of this Jordanian city and take a walking tour of its sights, View photos, starting at the Siq.
Petra Guide
Explore the landmarks and tourist attractions of this Jordanian city. Find historical information and view photos.
Petra Moon Tourism
Offers independent and group leisure tours of Jordan and organizes religious journeys. Explore destination cities and customize a trip.
Petra Tours
Travel agency offers tours of Jordan and its surrounding countries for individuals and groups. Peruse tour itineraries and visa requirements.

HWA Denying he ever said Petra was the place of Safety.
HWA arranging with King Hussain on Petra for Place of Safety
Hwa on Petra as the Place of safety (Yes He did say it was)

Place of Safety for Philidelphians, Robert J. Thiel

 

 

Spiritual Protection

1.    God is our Hiding Place (Richard Nickels)

2.    The Place of Safety Really?

3.     Petra and Some Background by:
        by Ron Graff and Lambert Dolphin an excerpt from their book.

4.    David Foster,  Comments

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Some summaries:

Dankenbring says, "God is the One we must look to. For no matter where the chosen place of safety is, or when we flee, unless God takes us there, it will either be the wrong place, or else we will go there either too early, or too late!" Amen!

Hoeh says that the Place of Safety "is only [for] those who are having a part in the work of God — who have their minds on the Kingdom of God, not some physical place of protection — who will escape. That escape cannot be planned for in advance. It is a supernatural escape!" Hoeh continues, "It is not those who heap up provisions that shall escape! It is those who obey God, who do His work, and who trust Him to provide the necessities and the divine protection when that time arrives!"

David Jon Hill says, " . . . GOD HIMSELF will have to be our Protection, our Safety, our Buckler, our Shield, our Tower, our Defense — or Petra will become, as it has for many thousands of others, OUR TOMB, instead of our Place of Safety!" Daily miracles will be necessary to keep us alive. "There is NO WAY we can save ourselves from the prophesied famines to come upon this land. No matter how much whole wheat . . . [etc.] we have stowed away in a cave we're not going to live through that time of famine except by God’s express will and desire and by His direct intervention!" See Matthew 16:25.

 L. Leroy Neff in his article "You May Not Escape the Tribulation!" gives balanced, uplifting principles we can learn from Petra and the Place of Safety:

Steven Collins says "The Bible does say that the place ‘sela’ (Petra) will be a place from which people are taken captive in the latter days and not a place where they are given refuge from captivity . . . . Numbers 24 indicates Petra will be a very dangerous place in the latter days . . . . those who put their trust in Petra may blunder into the very captivity they are seeking to avoid by 'fleeing to Petra'." Instead of going to Petra, we should "stay away from Petra."

Roy Marrs says the woman of Revelation 12 is Israel, not the Church. Compare Revelation 12:7-10, 13 with Luke 10:18, John 12:31. "NOW shall the prince of this world be cast out" shows that Satan’s wrath was focused on Israel. Israel fled to the wilderness. Christ told Israel, the inhabitants of Judaea to flee to mountains, Matthew 24:16-22. Revelation 12:17 shows that the remnant of Israel is the Church. Revelation 13:7 says Satan shall war against the saints and overcome them, they don’t escape.

Steven Ross says Christians are to be busy in Christ’s service when He returns, Matthew 24:46, "Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing." He says it is hard to fulfil this hiding in a cave in Petra

Hoeh, Herman L. "We Saw Petra!," January 1958.
Neff, L. Leroy, "You May NOT ESCAPE the Tribulation!," January 1962.
Hoeh, Herman L., "This is PETRA!," April 1962, June 1962, July 1962.
Hill, David Jon, "PETRA!," October 1963.
Smith, Norman, "We FLED Petra!," November 1966.


Other Articles:

The Saints on the Sea of glass:  By Kenneth V. Ryland

Petra and the Place of Safety Petra and the Place of Safety. Study No. 127. ... Some imply that being taken to the "lace of Safety," is almost equivalent to entering the Kingdom of God. .

Where is Your "Place of Safety"?  GTA